Do you Chick-fil-a lovers know that the CEO gave more than $5,000,000 to anti-gay organizations, including some that have been guilty of committing hate crimes against LGBT’s? Enjoy your chicken as you THINK you are supporting free speech. Also notice that the organizers of this nation-wide event are FAR RIGHT WING TEA BAGGERS. Enjoy your chicken.
The groups Chik-fil-a charitable arm the Winshape Foundation has donated to in the last five years, and amounts:
Marriage & Family Legacy Fund: $994,199
Fellowship Of Christian Athletes: $480,000
National Christian Foundation: $240,000
Focus On The Family: $12,500
Eagle Forum: $5,000
Exodus International: $1,000
Family Research Council: $1,000
Point out which of these organizations is “hate groups” according to you. Tell me what “hate crimes” they have committed against gay people. Cite specific instances and sources (names of victims, dates, times, places, police reports, media links). Use a source preferably neutral and credible, not the completely discredited Southern Poverty Law Center or GLBT orgs and publications, which obviously have a dog in the hunt.
You made the accusation, not me. Why don’t you tell us where you got the five million dollar figure? Wikipedia?
“WinShape has donated an estimated $5 million to conservative groups including Eagle Forum, Focus on the Family, Fellowship of Christian Athletes, Family Research Council, Exodus International and the Marriage & Family Legacy Fund since 2003. Approximately $2 million was given in 2009 and almost the same amount in 2010. The Foundation’s financial support of these groups has caused gay-rights advocates to denounce the chain and has also led to movements against Chick-Fil-A restaurants and products on various college and university campuses including Northeastern University and NYU. Northeastern University’s Student Senate voted on February 28, 2012 to cancel plans for an on-campus Chick-Fil-A restaurant and an online petition against the NYU franchise was also launched that same month.”
Well, you got the timeline wrong, since 2003=nine years, not five. The only other groups mentioned anywhere else as having gotten funds from Winshape are the American Family Association and National Organization for Marriage (NOM), the primary electoral grassroots advocacy group for political action for traditional marriage and against same-sex marriage (hardly the only group though). Can’t link any dollars though. Doesn’t matter. None of these groups are hate groups unless you let the most militant fringe of the ” gay rights” crowd define what is, and is not, hate.
So I ask again, what “hate crimes” have these groups sanctioned?
Incidentally, I HATE using Wikipedia as an academic source, but it can be a good information aggregator. The sources appear to be mostly left-wing, pro-gay pubs like Huffington Post and Equality Matters, and even the Business Insider article sounded biased. Apparently, anything less than a whole-hearted, enthusiastic endorsement of homosexual “marriage” is a hate crime these days.
Just a couple of comments from NOM (National Organization for Marriage): (1) Bert and Ernie are being used to influence children toward homosexuality; (2) the LGBT group is totalitarian and wants to control every instutiion in society; (3) it was admirable for the Boy Scouts to exclude gays; (4) supports a spokesperson who claims that same-sex couples sexually abuse their children. As for Wikipedia, never been there; never going there. It’s for the lazy amature. My definition of a hate crime is when someone is denied their rights as citizens and more extreme measures. Read the Declaration of Independene, 2nd paragraph and you will find “. . . . pursuit of Happiness as one of OUR RIGHTS. Not the pursuit of happiness that you define. Dig deeper. You were on the right track with the NOM thingy. We left the Old Country because some prick of a king made his religion the only acceptable religion. We have freedom of religion in our country because that was what we wanted. Still have a couple of days before leaving on my cruise (celebrating our daughter’s 50th birthday) and I might be back on this page tomorrow but I am not going to respond to your dribble. I am tired of your narrowmindedness.
Yes, I know who Chick-Fil-A are, I understand their values, and I agree with them. I also understand that you and your ilk are going to label anything that does not agree with your radical perverted views as hate crimes and bigoted, when in fact the lefty liberal radicals are the most intolerant, hateful people existing. Mr. Cathy said nothing against anyone, he simply stated that he believed in marriage as defined in the Bible, millions of good, ole’ US Americans would say the same thing if asked.Mr. Cathy has not said that any one who does not agree with him is committing a hate crime or anything, he has not said anything ugly about your side. you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Real Americans are tired of seeing this country pulled down into the gutter by the marginal people who are radical and against everything that has proven by years and centuries of experience to be good. Old fashioned values built the US with God’s help into the greatest nation on Earth that has ever been, with a higher living standard and more help and justice for more people than has ever existed, yet so many want to destroy it and replace it with…what? Look at Detroit and some other cities to see what your America will look like…
I don’t care what his position is on any subject. I pointed out where he puts his money – into groups that commit hate crimes AND HE KNOWS WHAT THEY DO. I hope that you enjoyed your chicken and I hope that you were listening to A TEA BAGGING CONGRESSMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA today when he compared the part of the Affordable Care Act that went into effect today as another Pearl Harbor and 9/11. He is one of those that helped arrange Chick-fil-a appreciation day.
GothicArc is completely correct. You constantly refer to members of the TEA Party with a vulgar sexual reference. You state that you don’t care what Mr. Cathey’s position is on any subject. You and the rest of the progressive liberal ilk are consumed with hatred towards anyone who doesn’t profess fealty to your position. Your every post demonstrates GothicArc’s point that you are full of hatred and have nothing positive to contribute to the conversation. You were asked by The Jet says to name which organizations were “hate groups” and to provide specific examples of their “hate crimes,” but you have not listed any. You ask everyone to prove a negative when you are unable to provide any corroborating evidence to back up your bogus charges. Stop drinking the progressive liberal Kool-Aid and start thinking for yourself. You and your kind only seek to destroy America, but you haven’t thought about the aftermath of such an event and the fact that the choas that would occur would destroy any chance of protecting human rights which the progressive left claims to be so concerned about. We who supported Chick-fil-A know exactly what we are supporting and proudly ate there yesterday to show our support. It’s about time someone called out the gay community and showed that they comprise < 1% of the population. They are a vocal minority whose agreesive actions make them appear much larger. I hope other spineless corporations will see the success of this event and stop kowtowing to the vocal minority. You want gay marriage so bad, well you ought to have to suffer through divorce like the rest of us, so be careful what you wish for. You won't be standing in front of me to answer for your lifestyle, you'll be standing before God. Not one post on this site has expressed any anger towards you, but you constantly spew venomous hatred towards eveyone who disagrees with you.
I use the term TEA BAGGING as a show of contempt for an organization that is taking America to hell in a handbasket. I am well aware of its (Tea Bagging) meaning and that is exactly what I feel they are doing to our country. Count the number of bills they have blocked in the house and read their dribble about how “the president is out of touch and does nothing.” It is the Tea Baggers that are doing nothing but clogging up the governmental process. Oh by the way,
Chick-fil-a just announced that they have no intention of releasing the numbers on how much they made yesterday. Sort of sounds like they have the Mittwit’s tactics down pat.
So, “Down Town in Jonesboro Says” and “Around Saline Lake Says” are the same person posting under different names. That explains a lot. Yes, the TEA Party does intend to destroy your progressive liberal Utopia and replace it with real-world conservatism. Get used to it!
I like to fish and I own a place on the lake and escape to here often. Jonesboro actually bores me with all of the crap going on about the mayor and the general mindset shared by most of the population of that town. I don’t worry about the Tea Baggers as they will ultimately disappear and the true Repulicans will again gain control. Until then. . . .
Here’s a bit of info. My friends and I went to La Tech to Chick Fil-A today to show support of the stand the CEO took against the idea of marriage being between a man and a woman, as the Bible states, and the workers in that establishment were in awe that so many people were eating there today. They were not even aware of the Chick Fil-A Appreciation Day — is this the way most Americans function in the world today — not even knowing what’s going on around them? I would dare say there are “lots” of folks that just go on day to day not knowing, and maybe not even caring what revolves in the world around them. My goodness — and the chicken and waffle fries were delicious!!! Thanks Chick Fil-A!!!
As much as all this ‘seems like the right thing to do’, Something, still ‘seems amiss’ about all this. I mean ‘an army’ of believers, rising up to fight by ordering ‘larger waffle fries’ to fight a super spirit of uncleanness over the land just ain’t gonna get it. Ever hear of the 7 sons of Sceva? They got their bo-hineys kicked and exposed for not going into battle with the right understanding. (Acts 19:13-20) (And yes, I do like Chic-fil-a, support em every other day of the year, it’s just when the going gets weird, the weird turn professional).
Read Hebrews 5 11-14 before you respond, please.
I actually agree with you on that. I supported Chik-fil-a yesterday, as I’m sure many regular folks did, to send a forceful message of pushback against the forces of moral destruction. But I have had your same thoughts; what if Christian believers, in those very same numbers, focused action on something that REALLY matters? Boy that would be great!
Thing is, most believers also feel powerless in the face of the modern secularist onslaught. That nothing they do matters. Take this whole gay marriage kerfluffle. No matter what anybody (Chik-fil-a, Truett Cathy, FRC, GLAAD, Congress, the states, you, me, whoever) says or does, there will come a day when the nine high priests and priestesses of the U. S. Supreme Court will rule, once and for all, on what marriage in America will be, and their word will be final. And when that day comes, nothing that came before it will have mattered. Such is life in our flawed system.
Even so, I won’t begrudge people one tiny act of defiance, or push Christians into self-introspection and flagellation that is NEVER required of our opponents. I hope, instead, that yesterday, a light bulb went off in their heads, that they may have far more power than they realize. Lets realize the potential here.
I see your point Rick, but I believe that Christians ARE preparing to do something – vote Obama and the progressive liberal Democrats out of office on election day! Until then, there is not much we can do. We’ve attended rallys, educated ourselves, and become familiar with the issues. Protesting in the streets is so progressive liberal and accomplishes nothing but solidifying in the public’s mind that we are agitators. The TEA Party is alive and well and preparing for election day. We patiently explain the TEA Party and our conservatism to friends and neighbors who know us and don’t think we’re flakes (maening they’ll listen). Until then, a tasty meal at Chick-fil-A to support traditional values seems like the right thing to do at the time. I’m just saying, we’ve got to eat, so it might as well be tasty and piss off progressive liberals at the same time.
We might want to study how to ‘pray to remove leadership’, Read Acts 11:27 all the way through to Acts 14:25, where Paul and Silas had completed their mission. The same angel that struck Peter in the side so hard the night before he was to be executed, he was sound asleep! (Wonder if I would be sleeping on my last night in jail), that same angel struck Herod dead in v 23! And lookee what happens in verse 24! Amazing stuff if one has ears to hear.
I arrived at the Chick-fil-A located in the local mall food court at 8PM, waited about 40 minutes, and the line still had people in it at 9PM when they closed. Great food, a worthy cause, and not a gay protester in sight. All of the other food court vendors just sat helplessly by with sad looks on their faces and stared at the Chick-fil-A line. I overhead one of the Chick-fil-A workers say they weren’t going to have enough chicken to open the next day. I was told that no one had eaten at any of the other food court vendors that day. I live in an extremely gay-friendly city and the outporing of support for traditional values was overwhelming. Cowboy is correct that gays make up < 1% of the population, but they shout loudly to make everyone think they have massive numbers. Oh, Down in Jonesboro, don't bother posting a reply as we all already know you are filled with hatred and have nothing constructive to say.
None of these “hate groups” have done a damned thing to anyone. Bring pro-traditional family doesn’t make one a hateful person. Perhaps we’re tired of having all of this gay crap crammed down our throats. If one disagrees with Chick fil a’s philosophical stance then don’t eat there.
I OTOH will eat there because their product is good and it’s high time someone stood up for the traditional family since everyone else seems to think there’s something wrong with that.
Folks get used to it!
IF you are followers of His Way and His Word….
Truth is Hate to those Who Hate the Truth…
Open your book and read it for yourselves…
Matt 10:22, 24:9
John 1518, 15:24
Read His Word, (from the Beginning) and you understand the times we are in.
For those who are not in His Word, that’s NOT your problem!
He is ‘Lord’ of the Harvest, not me or you.
He wants His wheat to act like His wheat and quit acting like the tares (Matt 13, Mark 4, Luke 7:8, it really is pretty simple)
He’s got a plan for the Tares.
(Oh by the way, read who gets take 1st and who gets left behind)
If you mean “religion” as people use it as a substitute for the salvation provided by Jesus’s death and our relationship with Him, then you are right in that people can go to hell while being religious. That was the religious leaders’ problem in Jesus’s day: they loved the Jewish religion but were far from God. Jesus told them that if they knew God they would recognize Him, but because they did not know God they did not know Him.
God’s heart and plan is that none should perish. Jesus looked over Jerusalem and cried out for the Jewish people He came to save, and who would not have Him nor accept what he was offering them freely. People today are much the same: refusing “so great salvation”.
You’re getting me started…
It’s funny because this bible of yours that you are all so idolized for following and living by is the same bible that supported slavery & the degrading of women’s rights how many years ago? Your all like kids at a candy store deciding what you like and don’t like. I’d love to see how many christians still follow the adultery commandment, and saying you do doesn’t make a nun or priest favorite. I have nothing against chik fil a honestly more towards the religion itself. Just as you all supported slavery only to realize its degrading lifestyle you will come too sense on gays in your community
The Scriptures do not support slavery in the American sense of the term. The Bible actually states that to take someone against their will and force them into servanthood (the American idea of slavery) was punishable by death. “Slavery” in the Bible is better translated as “servanthood” and isn’t much different than the economic system we have in America. You willingly worked for someone else under set rules and agreements. The Israeli life in servanthood was so great that foreigners from nearby nations would often sell themselves into servanthood in Israel. They knew they would be treated fairly.
So let’s all drop the slavery bit that is regurgitated by so many “atheists”. It isn’t accurate, and you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. Nice try, though…
Yea, folks who don’t actually read The Word from The Beginning don’t realize that the heart of The Father (read Creator) is and always been to set the captives free, not to enslave His children, its mans religion enslaves folks.
Where did I ever say that? That’s a mighty big stroke assumption you make…… ‘You all?’ ‘Against gays?’
That type of question is the same as me asking you, ‘Have you stopped beating your lover?’
I thought the topic you brought up was misunderstanding what The Word said about ‘slavery’.